Talk: Scott and Steve

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-Second class or not, at least they can tell the difference between two different actors. --[[User:Hen-Regale|Hen-Regale]] 10:10, 22 May 2006 (PDT)
-:I'm not so sure, I can't tell off that picture if Steve is the one who is dead. One shirt thats similar doesn't mean its Steve that died. --Plkrtn 01:25, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-I wondered if posting a link to a competing Wiki might be against etiquette.  The article (on the "other" site) is good and comprehensive, it would be easier to just copy the whole thing over but that would presumably breach their copyright?  --[[User:ActiveValue|ActiveValue]] 10:19, 22 May 2006 (PDT)
-:There is no copyright on a Wiki. Its copyleft. No one owns the copyright to Lostpedia's content, except any that are owned by Bad Robot/et al. --Plkrtn 01:25, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-gotta work on  my texan accent... well, we need our own article, that's for sure, if it's originally created it's better, I wouldn't like to copy it, not because of copyright but because that looks bad and damages our street cred. {{User:GodEmperorOfHell/sig}} --10:22, 22 May 2006 (PDT)
-If confirmation from the actor is not enough, You guys have problems. - [http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=24672 The Fuselage].
-:I'm getting my DVDs out and checking this right now...
-::Just checked and I can confirm, you cannot tell via the DVDs. I went frame by frame and you cannot tell... I referenced The Moth against Homecoming, the only thing that gives it away is the shirt, but it wouldn't be surprising if they shared clothing or had similar shirts. --Plkrtn 11:14, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-It also appears that this little debate has made it's way to the Lost Wikia. They've got a pic on their Scott and Steve talk page that may interest you - [http://lost.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Scott_and_Steve http://lost.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Scott_and_Steve] --[[User:Hen-Regale|Hen-Regale]] 10:25, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-== Gimme a break. ==
-the show's internal continuity demonstrates Scott is dead and Steve is alive. I don't even know why we're having this controversy, ok, someone wants conspiracy theories, we have more than enough of those already. The transcripts are consistent, and watch your own pic, that's Steve. [[Image:Thatssteve.jpg]].<br>
-{{User:GodEmperorOfHell/sig}} 11:08, 23 May 2006 (PDT)~~
-That is NOT Christian Bowman! That is definately Dustin Watchman.
-Christian can be seen at the start of the episode.
-[[Image:SteveHotel.jpg]]
-If you want further proof from the actor. The tagline for Christian's MySpace page is: [http://myspace.com/ChristianBowman "Hey... aren't you that dead guy from LOST...."]
-It also says "I just moved out to Los Angeles from Honolulu, HI where I '''enjoyed''' the recurring role of Steve on the hit television show LOST."
---[[User:Hen-Regale|Hen-Regale]] 23:44, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-== Actor vs. producer ==
-Ok, now you chose a pic from a flashback, that's not conclusive. If I had to choose between believing a MySpace account and an official interview I would put my money on the interview with the producers. You have already set your mind and I know you will ignore the transcripts and the interview. but believe this, There is a note in the writers' board that says; Scott is dead Steve is alive. C is for Cookie, that's good enough for me. {{User:GodEmperorOfHell/sig}} --03:44, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
-[http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=24804 Fuselage VIP entry for Dustin Watchman] - How did Scott (played by Dustin Watchman) appear in Season 2 episodes.....if he's dead?
---[[User:Hen-Regale|Hen-Regale]] 09:14, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
-== Interview with Carlton Cuse & Adam Horowitz ==
-From [http://www.eonline.com/Insider/Boards/ann.jspa?annID=563 an E Online interview with Jennifer Godwin]:
-JG: Okay, here's a big question: Scott was eulogized, but rumor has it that it was actually Steve that was killed, even though Hurley apologized for calling Scott Steve. Which one is really alive?
-CC: I have no idea.
-JG: That's your official executive producer answer? You have no idea?
-AH: We actually have a notecard on the board in the room that says "Scott is dead, Steve is alive."
-CC: Yes.
-AH: We'd lost track.
-CC: Scott's dead, Steve's alive.
-[[User:Amberjet11|Amberjet11]] 11:25, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-: Thats enough for me. Changed the article to confirm Scott is dead and Steve is alive. --Plkrtn 11:35, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-:: Are the theories worth anything, then? --[[User:Cajuncook|Cajuncook]] 12:07, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-::: Not when the people who created it tell us otherwise... Much like purgatory has been ruled out --Plkrtn 12:53, 23 May 2006 (PDT)
-== Help from the community ==
-We need more voices; we have gathered the evidence, what do others think about this? {{User:GodEmperorOfHell/sig}} --10:12, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
-:Let's see if I've got this straight - Producers have stated "Scott is Dead and Steve is alive" in interviews.  Christian Bowman (who presumably played "Steve") has not been on the show since Season 1.  Dustin Watchman (who ostensibly plays "Scott") has been an extra in several episodes of season 2, though never with a speaking role, or directly referenced with a character name by anyone.  The possibilities are:
-:*The Producers are lying, or don't know, or are continuing the joke outside of the show.  Dustin Watchman has been retained as random extra or to play some future character, or for a future reveal that Scott is still alive.
-:*the Producers are telling the truth, Scott is dead and Dustin Watchman is just a random extra, or is now playing Steve (due to either continuity error or some future plot point that Scott/Steve switched identities).
-:Unless this becomes a major plot point in the future, I really don't see what all the fuss is about. I just added a bit of text to the main page indicating that Dustin is apparently still an extra on his show, even though his character is officially deceased.  My guess is this is a simple continuity issue that the writers/producers have decided to turn into an inside joke.  Maybe they just like working with Dustin Watchman so they've kept him around...--[[User:Isotope23|Isotope23]] 10:47, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
-[[Image:Sceve.jpg]]
---[[User:Hen-Regale|Hen-Regale]] 11:42, 24 May 2006 (PDT)